MobMap 3.02 - more bugfixing galore

Okay, so there had to be another bugfix update. This new version doesn't fix anything you actually see (okay, except that error that potentially could cause your trade skill window to misbehave), but it fixes several things in the data collection routines. Therefore, if you are one of those great people out there who regularly upload collected data, please update to the newest version as soon as possible! And if not - just update, too ;-) Bugfixes are always a good thing!

My belly keeps telling me that this version will probably turn out to be pretty stable - I hope he's right on this matter. Otherwise - well, please leave me a comment if you find a bug.

Oh, and three more answers to questions I have read multiple times in the comments:

- Yes, Inscription was added to the recipe database now! The list is already quite complete, so if you'd like to have the inscription recipe list available in MobMap just fetch a fresh database copy.

- The MobMapDatabaseStub addon names in the addon screen being written in red letters does not mean that they are "out of date"! This is a common misconception, and if I was Blizzard, I would've probably chosen different colors (like a light yellow or something) to mark "load-on-demand"-addons in the list - that is the meaning of the red color! A "load-on-demand"-addon is a special kind of addon that is not being loaded when you enter the game, but it can be loaded while you're playing by any running addon. I use this feature to speed up the process of entering the world: MobMap's databases are pretty big for an addon, and if all 14 database parts would be loaded when you enter the game, the startup time of WoW would probably be way longer (maybe like 5 to 30 seconds longer, depending on your machine). Plus, the databases would always occupy addon memory - even if you're not actually using MobMap at all in a gaming session. Being load-on-demand, the core MobMap addon can load the databases at the time they're actually required to satisfy a search query, and it can load just those parts it needs and leave the others untouched, which is a huge memory saver.

- No, MobMap 3.0 does NOT work with WoW patch 2.4.x! There is absolutely no reason for me to spend time for such a compatibility, as you have to play with a 3.0 client anyway - at least on the official servers, and I do not support private server crap in any way.


Last but not least - the patch notes (though there's nothing special in there):

v3.02:
- fixed: an error that could cause unintended interference with the tradeskill window in certain conditions
- fixed: several internal errors concerning the data collection mechanisms

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  1. Stefan says:

    Hello! I downloaded your database and would like to use the data for a semantic model about wow. But as I don't know the linking of the data in your files - do you have a model of that or descritpion? You can write me in german if you prefer it.

    Greetz, Stefan

  2. Anonymous says:

    seid der neue atch da ist spielt MOP MAP verrückt es geht nichts mehr fast alle fespeicherten daten sind weg das zu ihrerMOP MAP
    schit fertig

  3. Ferdi says:

    What does that mean: Moneytype not set?
    nothing is working in Wow

  4. UJIF says:

    the same problem "Moneytype not set". Wrong version of WoW?

  5. Tobias says:

    Kann man erwarten, dass die Erfolge demnächst auch in MobMap eingepflegt werden? Z.B. bei den Erkundungserfolgen wären Punkte manchmal sehr sinnvoll.

    Viele Grüße
    Tobias

  6. Skywalker says:

    Works Mobmap 3.0.2 with WoW 2.4.3 ????

  7. John says:

    There is a problem, MobMapDatabaseStub
    1->14 is outdated???

  8. Will Goring says:

    I'm not sure if this has been reported yet or not, or if you're aware of it, but it looks like many (or maybe all?) of the Stormwind NPC co-ordinates are wrong.

    Basically, it looks like when they opened the harbour, the zone expanded up and left, meaning that all existing NPCs are now further from the top left than they used to be. Obviously the mobmap DB still has the old coordinates in it, meaning the location dots are a little way northwest of the appropriate NPC.

  9. Slarti says:

    Yes, I am aware of this problem. The situation is exactly as you've explained it, they have changed the map and therefore the old coordinates are junk.

    I will fix this in a few days by wiping all stored coordinates in Stormwind. I'm still waiting at the moment because there's still a lot of old data being uploaded by people right now while they're updating MobMap which I cannot "detect" as being collected before patch 3.0. But the amount of old data should diminish soon, making the new data dominant enough to wipe the old Stormwind coordinates and start collecting the new ones.

  10. Will Goring says:

    Awesome; I'm happy as long as you're aware of the issue - it's not like some slightly out coords in Stormwind are the biggest addon problem I've got since the patch. ;)

    Thanks for the response.

  11. Lacelle says:

    Why not introduce a new 'version' field to the capture?

    All data not captured with your utility at v3.03 should be suspect but still given out coordinates on, but all data v3.03 and beyond should be considered more accurate. Should be a piece of cake to add 1 more database column to validate on, with a default of version "0" as unset.

  12. Slarti says:

    Unfortunately it ain't as simple as that. I would have to add a timestamp to EACH SINGLE COORDINATE (loot event/quest log event/etc...) logged by MobMap client-side. That would easily double the amount of data being collected, and usually it would be unnecessary, as this information is only interesting in very special cases (like the case with stormwind now). I'm instead relying on statistics, wiping all stormwind coordinates in a few days and counting on the fact that many more "new/correct" coordinates will be uploaded in the future than "old/uncorrect" ones.

  13. Maischter says:

    Kannst du Mobmap mal cartographer 3 kompatibel machen?

  14. Tauret says:

    Hi you.

    My Mobmap doesnt run right.
    Since yesterday it doesnt show quest-targets on map. Got some different error-messages.

    Here one of them:

    Date: 2008-10-18 15:33:26
    ID: 33
    Error occured in: Global
    Count: 1
    Message: ..\FrameXML\UIPanelTemplates.lua line 34:
    attempt to index local 'tab' (a number value)
    Debug:
    [C]: ?
    ..\FrameXML\UIPanelTemplates.lua:34: PanelTemplates_TabResize()
    [string "*:OnLoad"]:1:
    [string "*:OnLoad"]:1
    AddOns:
    BonusScanner, vv2.4
    GroupCalendar, v4.0.4
    MobMap, vMobMap v3.02
    Swatter, v4.0.4
    _____________

    Please help! Thank you!!!!!

    Answers in english or german please

  15. Süfanie (realm: Lordaeron) says:

    Also respekt respekt ich muß mich vielmals danken an das team was mob map so bearbeitet, es hat sich in kürzere zeit wurde doch mob map doch zu ein wichtigen teil von World of Warcraft die ganzen erneuerungen von mop mab vereinfachen das system! möge mop mab noch besser werden, um auch noch die kleinen fehlern zu beseitigen!
    mfg
    Süfanie

  16. Mezzo says:

    scheint ein häufig auftretendes prob zu sein.. version veraltet und moneyType not set... was is da los? gibts irgendwo noch ne alte version zum dl?

  17. Zack says:

    I'm sorry but does MobMap 3.02 supports wow 2.4.3? If not could u plz tell me where can I download an older version?

    Thx

    (srry I only speak english ^^')

  18. Ryan says:

    how do i turn off the stupid question marks all over quest log, quest tracker ect, there used to be a way to do it, best regards
    Ryan

  19. Slarti says:

    The options have just been moved from the MobMap window to the interface options screen provided by Blizzard (into the AddOns subsection). There you'll find that option and many more.

  20. Steve says:

    Hi

    I've been using mobmap since just after TBC launch, and have persuaded loads more to get it as a result of it's awesomeness... i'm almost an in-game representative for you :) hehe

    Anyway, I have a problem that I wonder if you could fix.

    I use the location mechanism for gathering a lot, but 1, the minimap overlay does not work when you select 'all areas', and 2, you can only select 1 type of 'herb' / 'ore' etc...

    I know that gatherer (which I believe you're using the core of) and other such addons allow you to see more than 1 gatherable item at a time, and on top of that they show how often someone has found the item there.

    What would be really great is if I could select multiple herbs (of my choice), get them to display in ALL areas (including on the mini-map) and have the dots larger or a different colour if they're in the x% of highest found herb... for instance any nodes only found 8000 times would be grey, 16000 times would be yellow and 24000 would be green.

    Something like that anyway.

    Keep up the good work, I love the addon, I update data frequently and use it's features daily.

  21. Slarti says:

    All right, I understood your problem. Unfortunately I can't promise any such thing right now, as this couldn't be done with just a few lines of code but would require a little more work. And my current focus is on the upcoming WotLK release and the "quest helper" functionality of MobMap, which will definitely be the most important feature after WotLK hits the live servers and all people are busy questing and leveling again. I'll keep it somewhere in mind, though.

  22. Steve says:

    Sorry to spam, 1 more thing.

    Is it possible to add tracking ? to the 'Achievements' tracking system?

    I'd like to kill all the medium rares, and it's easier to click on a ? than it is to type in the mob name each time :)

    Thanks

  23. Vertico says:

    Nachdem ich heute die neueste Version von Mobmap installiert habe (über den Updater) geht nun garnichts mehr. Die Registerkarten sind leer und nicht anwählbar, bei den Quests wird nur über das Fenster hinweg die Fraktionssymbole angezeigt und so weiter...
    Eine alte Version zu installieren ist nicht möglich da man ja eine aktuellere DB braucht, Ingame dann eine Meldung kommt dass die Posi-DB nicht mit der Version kompatibel sei.

    Ich tippe mal darauf, dass die Version auf den aktuellen WoW-Patch ausgerichtet ist, jedoch jeglicher Hinweis darauf fehlt.

    Damit ist es in meinen Augen böse schief gelaufen mit der neuen Mobmap-Version. Ich wäre sehr dankbar für eine Alternativ-Version für Patch 2.4.2

  24. Slarti says:

    Das hast du richtig erkannt. Hinweise darauf werde ich nirgendwo anbringen, MobMap ist IMMER so wie praktisch alle anderen Addons auch auf Kompatibilität mit der jeweils aktuellen WoW-Version (die praktischerweise im deutschen wie im englischen Sprachraum gleichzeitig aktualisiert werden) ausgelegt, ohne Rücksicht auf Rückwärtskompatibilität. Das ist ein "Feature", das jemand, der ganz normal WoW auf den offiziellen Servern spielt, auch niemals braucht.

    Ich kanns noch ein tausendstes Mal sagen, und es wird sich nicht ändern: ich supporte keine Privatserver. Es kostet mich schon genug Zeit und Aufwand, deren blödsinnige Daten aus der MobMap-DB auszufiltern, da werd ich ja kaum noch mehr Zeit aufwenden um sie mit Rückwärtskompatibilität zu unterstützen, damit ich dann noch mehr Blödsinn hochgeladen bekomme...

  25. Vertico says:

    Kurze Korrektur, meinte natürlich Patch 2.4.3

  26. Hammer says:

    No, MobMap 3.0 does NOT work with WoW patch 2.4.x!
    Wer Englisch kann und auch lesen kann,
    ist klar im Vorteil...

  27. Daniel says:

    Hi, I'm using mobmap 3.02. i'm not able to select alot of ore's (adamantite, korium, fel iron, etc...) in the "Pickups -> item's from mining" tab. just wondering if you knew of this problem or not. i also have the newest database available downloaded. response in english please, thanks in advance.

  28. Slarti says:

    Haven't heard of such a problem yet, but will take a look at it later.

  29. morte says:

    I can prove that I have the same problem.Mining des not show a lot of ores. Only parts (maybe 5?) are visibe. Also the data for those which are selectable are not correct. I guess it has something to do with either cartographer or the curse client.

  30. teer says:

    i also am having the same problem as daniel. in the last couple of days it seems mobmap has "forgotten" outland or bc ores and herbs. theyre not on the list.
    also i'm not too tech savvy, so i use curse client to manage addons. but they dont list you anymore either.

  31. Mars says:

    Thank you for this mod.

    Is there any plan to implement an overview of quest givers per zone? And if yes, will it be implemented before Wotlk release?

  32. Slarti says:

    Actually such a feature is already in. You can set a zone filter on the quest list window and have all listed quest givers be displayed on the map at once. That should do something like you requested.

  33. Mars says:

    Danke. Aber ich bekomme es nicht an, dass die Questgeber auf der Karte angezeigt werden. Ich suche nach Quests in Sturmwind, klicke dann auf "alle zeigen", Mobmap wechselt zum ersten Tab (und öffnet die Map; jedoch immer mit der aktuellen Zone statt in der wo ich gesucht habe), füllt "id:.." ein und die NPCs werden trotzdem nicht angezeigt (auch nicht nach Bestätigung durch Enter oder Neueingabe der letzten Zahl). Suche ich jedoch nach NPCs in Stormwind und klicke dann einen an, werden seine Punkte angezeigt.

    Stormwind war jetzt nur ein Beispiel; bei anderen Zonen geht es auch nicht.

  34. Slarti says:

    Ich werde mir das Feature mal genauer ansehen.

  35. Nethie says:

    Hi,

    Not sure if you know this already but I've been trying to download the addon but i keep getting a 404 page error.

    Not sure if it's on my side or yours, just thought you might want to check out the link to see if it's broken.

    Great piece of kit by the way.

    Thanks

  36. Slarti says:

    Checked em, and from here everything seems to work just fine. My download statistics show continouous downloads from other people, too, so the problem is probably located on your side of the wire.

  37. James Wragg says:

    So thats what was causing em probs

  38. Ex says:

    I am also getting the error 404 trying to download MobMap302.zip from http://mirror2.mobmap.de/files/MobMap302.zip

  39. Mark says:

    I also am getting 404 error pages when trying to download anything. Including:

    http://mirror2.mobmap.de/files/MobMap302.english.zip

    and

    http://mirror2.mobmap.de/files/MobMap302.zip

    but I find the separate database download works at:

    http://www.mobmap.de/dodownload.php?dl=database/MobMapDatabaseEnglish.zip&mirror=1

  40. Mark says:

    Ok, after some experimenting, I found the link URL for English addon/database is:

    http://www.mobmap.de/dodownload.php?dl=files/MobMap302.english.zip&mirror=1

    which, fails with 404 as I said above.

    But, if I change it to mirror=2 the download works:

    http://www.mobmap.de/dodownload.php?dl=files/MobMap302.english.zip&mirror=2

  41. Slarti says:

    Whoops, you're actually right. I just checked the database downloads and forgot about the manual addon downloads.

    I've corrected the mistake, thanks for reporting!

  42. Madrock says:

    Is there some way the minimap icon to be catched by Minimap Button Bag mod?

    Great mod. Ty

  43. TosH says:

    hi,
    seit dem update der mopbmap auf 3.02 hab ich probleme mit der performance.
    nachdem ich mir ein ort anzeigen lasse wo quest mobs sein sollen habe ich nur noch laggs. mein ping zum server bleibt annähernd gleich aber ich hab alle 2-5 sec standbilder bis ich einmal ausgeloggt hab und wieder eingeloggt hab. danach gehts wieder alles gut bis ich mir wieder orte anzeigen lasse.

    ich hoffe man kann mir helfen.

    btw. ich benutze : BasicMinimap, Mapster, TomTom und UberQuest (alles sachen die mit Quests und Orte anzeige zu tun haben)

  44. Alex says:

    Hallo Slarti,

    thank you for the update. I am glad that MobMap working fine with 3.02.

    There is one functionality that i am missing: support for TomTom. When clicking on the white results dots it would be great ti pass this information to TomTom which creates a new Waypoint for it.

    Keep up the grea work!

    Viele Grüße
    Alex

  45. Andrew says:

    i don't know where to down load the new mob map

  46. TosH says:

    Hi Folkz,

    since the MobMap uptade to 3.02 i have 2-5 sec laggs after i used the service of mobmap ingame. after relog there a no more laggs till i reuse the service of mobmap.

    i hope you could fix this bug or someone could help me to fix it if it is an problem with another addon i use.

    other addons i use : BasicMinimap, Mapster, TomTom und UberQuest

    nice regards

  47. hattric says:

    where i can find mobmap for version 2.4.3 ?


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